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dan visel

What about discogs.com? Producer credits for the Primal Scream album are there, doesn't look like the Bloc Party record is. There are aspects of discogs that I find incredibly annoying - splitting every abbreviation of a name in credits into a new artist's name variation, for example - but it does suggest a way forward. I know that at least some producers are entering the information in discogs themselves . . .

Have you seen Bill Morrison's Decasia? roughly the same concept as Disintegration Loops (released around the same time if I remember correctly?), but done with film. Worth a viewing!

Bernhard

thanks again for your column and sharing your opinion. what comes to my mind when i read it (even if my association doesn't follow a 100% the article's direction) was that there's a sort of a loss in haptical perception: vinyl, the packaging sleeves, cd's, the booklet etc... allow to arise haptical feelings during contact with its surface etc. and i don't know whether it is the same feeling by sorting out tracks on a notebook screen instead of taking a vinyl out of its sleeve, reading a booklet and so on... what comes to my mind too was, that vinyl was or is still a peace of art and sometimes you pay more for an artistic cover sheet that for the music itself...

Joey Hansom

Very insightful -- yes, it's a travesty that in the "information age" so much info is being omitted.

One thing I might point out -- regarding your comment that "we can't be certain that anything humans make these days is going to last more than a few decades, apart from toxins and landfill." Well, vinyl production produces a lot of toxins, and how much physical filler is floating around in this oversaturated market of commercially released music? That's one thing digitally released music has going for it -- it's "green", although I suppose at the expense of giving proper credit where it's due...

JP

I understand your point but honestly, I look at my friends and even in the CD era, they never knew about the engineers then. Not sure why they would know less now that there's mp3s. As someone said, when a project is discovered though mp3's or whatever, I just check on discogs to see who was behind it. I learn names but i have my threshold of things i can remember. When you see that people still can't differ a DJ than a live PA, we shouldn't over-dramatize the recognition situation of technicians, it is just all a lack of education and in some case, culture. Cheer up.

Thomas Von Party

Discogs is an amazing tool but the problem is that sometimes the official version sometimes doesn't even make it 'out there'. If the record label doesn't make it their business to say who was on Sax in the liner notes for itunes, then it can easily get lost in the shuffle.

What really steams my clams is that people really lose out on the PACKAGE... bad enough that they're settling for a crap mp3 on laptop speakers!!

It could be a 12", or a cd, or a mixtape, or even just a promo email.... but what matters is that it came from the SOURCE... it was message designed to accompany the music.

Personally, I'd rather people take Turbo stuff for free FROM US but at least have to read the onesheet first.

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